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03 July 2009 @ 03:34 am
Humor is a dying art  
You know... I think the best thing Steve Martin has ever written is the movie Bowfinger. It's just one of those comedies where everything works. I mean, even if I didn't think it was funny, which I do, I'd have to be impressed by how the little details tie together. It was just such a creative idea. I've never seen anything quite like it.

I strive to write something like that. I want to do a full length comedy, and I want it to be epic. But comedy is something that hits you, it isn't something that you can force. That keeps me a little frustrated. However, if I can write a damn monologue about lint that earns me a standing ovation, I think I can find a way to pull this together. Humor is where I shine. I'm just better at it than drama. So I need to find a way to turn that into something successful for me.

There has to be something in this brain. I've done it before. I just wish I knew how. How the hell have I written all of the things I wrote before? I know I can do it. I just need to keep trying.
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Svenja: Riversvenjaliv on July 3rd, 2009 01:03 pm (UTC)
I love writing humour. :D All my stories have to have humour in them. Mainly it takes the form of banter between my characters, although I'm also working on a fantasy story that might be considered comedy. It's in German, though, otherwise I'd share some of it on LJ.

I think the thing with humour is, you can't force it. You just have to write and wait for it to come to you. I usually find that reading or watching funny things helps, because then I'm in that mode of thinking and that kind of mood...
Writing Fiendelysiadawnielle on July 3rd, 2009 01:57 pm (UTC)
Wow, something is wrong with LJ and when I tried to post my comment to you, it sent me to a spam page instead and I lost it all. Livejournal is a flaming piece of crap. When I'm tired of feeling like I want to kill them with a rusty spork, I will type up my long reply to you again. x_x
Writing Fiendelysiadawnielle on July 3rd, 2009 02:10 pm (UTC)
Ok, this is sort of what I wrote... Seriously, I still have no idea why I can only answer comments through e-mail right now, but LJ is just a horrible website in so many ways, yet I just keep using it. Ugh. x_x K-- this is close to what I said:

Yeah, like I said, you can't force it. I was thinking about it earlier, and it's strange how a brain can just create something humorous without a tangible process. It's not something you can teach, you know? Weird how some people have a natural ability as far as producing comedy, while others don't. I've tried to explain how I come up with the things I do, and I just can't. I've done a lot of humorous writing in the past, but also, I used to do a lot of improv. And I still don't fully understand how I came up with ideas on the fly like that. It's kind of like explaining breathing. It's just something that you do, kind of difficult to explain to someone who doesn't get it, lol.

Ooh, I'm the same way! My writing always includes humor as well. Even my horror always seems to have a darkly humorous twist. I'm a huge fan of banter, also! It's my fave! Both on the page and in real life.

But I've never written a novel that was specifically humorous. Watching Bowfinger again had me inspired. I'd love to be able to transfer the style of my short, humorous pieces into a full length novel. But it's like, both humor and horror are things I enjoy and write pretty well, but I seem to struggle with thinking up an idea for a novel idea that won't just bore me in a week. It would have to be something complex enough to keep me going. So here's hoping I'm able to attain that goal. I'm running over all of my ideas and seeing what I can do with them.

Good luck with your novels!

(There, that was most of what I wrote, I think. Stupid god damn LJ. Seriously, I hate them. Anyway, this was the jest of what I said, at least.)
Svenja: Inarasvenjaliv on July 3rd, 2009 04:59 pm (UTC)
Oh, I totally getcha. I don't like LJ either. I got it to be able to read friends' journals, and somehow, I just started using it for other stuff as well. I got sucked into it, you might say. :D

I know what you mean about not being able to teach it, though. I think that's true for a lot of creative things. Like I can explain to someone how facial proportions work and give them all sorts of advice on shading, but I can't teach them how to draw a realistic portrait of someone. Humour is something you either have, or you don't. I think.

I struggle with plot too! In everything I write, plot is the last thing to fall into place. Weird, but true. I have a really hard time coming up with that. And then when I plot a story out too much, I get bored and end up not writing it, or changing everything as I go. *lol*

What I've started doing lately is combining several story ideas into one and making them fit together. It ends up making for a more interesting, complex storyline and I can use the different stories to fill in each other's blanks. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't!

And thanks, I can use some luck I think! :D

(And no need to apologise. My connection died just as I went to post this comment. I was expecting it--not the first time--so I'd copied the comment before I hit submit, but yeah. It happens!)
Writing Fiendelysiadawnielle on July 3rd, 2009 02:12 pm (UTC)
Sorry for the comment spam, but man, the first time I wrote that comment it was seriously ten times better. I hope you can read it with all the typos and crap. x_x Sorry, again. Stupid LJ.
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Writing Fiendelysiadawnielle on July 4th, 2009 12:44 am (UTC)
Isn't it great? Yeah, it isn't for everybody. Like I could never write historical fiction. Ever. Seriously, I would start and then just lose interest when I had to do lots of research. XD I suck like that.
Pink Siamesepink_siamese on July 3rd, 2009 08:54 pm (UTC)
There are the crafty things in writing that can be learned and polished, but there's also the x-factor, the part that can't be taught. It can be measured, though. It has something to do with brainwaves---people in the grip of "creative trance" show brainwave patterns that are similar to those seen in people who are dreaming and people who are in states of deep relaxation. You can learn how to get your mind into a place where the trance thing is more likely to occur, but it's not a mechanism than can be forced (only encouraged). It's something I've paid particular attention to this summer. I've found that using music and techniques (short freewriting, reading certain style of poetry) are more likely to tip my mind into the place I need it to go. Another thing that works for me is bellydance-based moving meditation, but this might not work for someone who isn't a dancer; walking meditation might work better. Maybe doing comedy improv before you write would help you.
Writing Fiendelysiadawnielle on July 4th, 2009 12:43 am (UTC)
Wow, I didn't know that about the brainwaves. That's cool. I'll have to look that up.

Yeah, for me, oddly enough talking into mirrors tends to help. I've written some of my best stuff while looking at myself and asking myself questions. I guess I should just start doing that again, see where it takes me.

Ooh, belly dancing. Fun. ^^ Walking is another one that always gets my mind flowing with inspiration, but whether or not that inspiration would lead to a full length comedy idea is hard to say. I walk a few miles every day, after all. That's my form of meditation, walking and jogging.

The thing is, I'm great at doing short pieces. That isn't the problem. I seem to struggle with developing something that I could stick with long term. But yeah, I'll keep trying my old ways, and focus more on that aspect when I meditate. I think I actually know why I'm struggling with that... It might not be something I can easily adjust to. At any rate, one day I'll do it, I'm sure. For now I guess I'll just have to be happy with whatever humor presents itself in the pieces I do work on. ^^
talithakalagotalithakalago on July 5th, 2009 01:54 am (UTC)
I'm really bad at comedy. :P

I'm sure it's one of those things you have to enjoy doing to do well, so don't make it 'un fun' for yourself.
Writing Fiendelysiadawnielle on September 19th, 2009 07:32 am (UTC)
*ten years later I reply*

Humor is something that comes naturally to me. Not to sound arrogant, I just mean that it's part of my everyday speech and life. But you're right-- it really isn't something that can be forced. I guess what I'm looking for is an idea that keeps me hooked, but my brain is resisting full force.

But at least I dreamed an idea for a horror novel, finally! I think I told you that already. Maybe. Anyway, I never had ideas that could go beyond a short story, so, here's hoping I stick with what I've got.

Whenever you get on, let me know how your projects are going, too, eh?